piping DVI, who is Tom Rokicki ?

[William Adams]

markdown and the web math thing came up in the greater context of the
conference if memory serves.

Yes, a server version of TeX makes sense for  a lot of projects.

William

On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 10:00 AM Mike Marchywka <marchywka at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 09:04:07AM -0400, William Adams wrote:
> >    As a person who remembers TeXview.app with great fondness I'll note
> that he developed TeXview.app for NeXTstep which used
> >    this IPC method
> >    [
> http://ftp.yzu.edu.tw/CTAN/support/hypertex/hypertex/]http://ftp.yzu.edu.tw/CTAN/support/hypertex/hypertex/
> >    and see:
> >    [
> http://www.tug.org/TUGboat/tb31-2/tb98panel.pdf]http://www.tug.org/TUGboat/tb31-2/tb98panel.pdf
> >    William
>
> Thanks, searching for "Tom" and reading his comments those questions still
> seem relevant although
> do you know if "markdown" or whatever the web math thingy is somehow
> related to this session?
>
> I played with a server version of "R" and a custom made java server and
> always wondered if there
> is any use for a server version of tex. That might sound dumb as both can
> be quite slow but the server
> I mentioned made heavy use of caching ( it was for custom ads generated in
> response to
> a specific web page irequest and whatever is known about the viewer ).
> Similarly with math or even dynamic web content a lot of it is reused
> anyway and better
> caching could make even slow things practical. In my  case however if you
> want to send a tex like
> source code to a browser and have it generate dvi or pdf locally client
> side then caching would not help.
> Although apparently from the commentary here a lot of markdown just
> generates requests for
> rendering by a third party and that is quite slow  ( beyond roundtrip web
> latency )
> but not sure why if caching is cheap.
>
> In any case incremental dvi does seem to have been explored before.
>
>
>
> >
> >    On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 8:55 AM Mike Marchywka <[mailto:
> marchywka at hotmail.com]marchywka at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >      I started looking at tex and got to texmfmp.c, finding these
> comments,
> >      /* IPC for TeX.  By Tom Rokicki for the NeXT; it makes TeX ship out
> the
> >         DVI file in a pipe to TeXView so that the output can be displayed
> >         incrementally.  Shamim Mohamed adapted it for Web2c.  */
> >      #if defined (TeX) && defined (IPC)
> >      On a few moments of search, I found AUCTEX which has a WYSIWYG
> >      like feature. This may be an ideal starting point although
> >      apparently it is all emacs lisp LOL. In any case if tex has
> >      an IPC output option that may be a big step closer to what I
> >      was after. Curious if anyone can comment on this socket output
> >      or incremental dvi or auctex as it may relate.
> >      Thanks.
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