[EXTERNAL] Re: TeX on Windows?

[Robert Jantzen]

My apologies, I thought I had saved it after correcting it, but I saved it again after sending the cache message and then checked the link to make sure it worked.

I appreciate your efforts to help me.

bob


bob jantzen
http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/
http://www.drbobenterprises.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: AC <achirvasub at gmail.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 7:00 PM
To: Robert Jantzen <robert.jantzen at villanova.edu>
Cc: texhax at tug.org; Philip Taylor <P.Taylor at Hellenic-Institute.Uk>; Dr Alan Litchfield <alan at alphabyte.co.nz>
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: TeX on Windows?



On May 25, 2021 6:56:12 PM EDT, Robert Jantzen <robert.jantzen at villanova.edu> wrote:
>It was your cache I think...??
>

It was not: your "corrected" link still reads 'dngimages' (just look back at the message; you don't have to take my word for it). 

I manually corrected it to 'dgnimages', so I know the cache was not the issue.

>
>bob jantzen
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Stuart Little <achirvasub at gmail.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 6:55 PM
>To: Robert Jantzen <robert.jantzen at villanova.edu>
>Cc: texhax at tug.org; Philip Taylor <P.Taylor at Hellenic-Institute.Uk>; Dr 
>Alan Litchfield <alan at alphabyte.co.nz>
>Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: TeX on Windows?
>
>On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 10:41:25PM +0000, Robert Jantzen wrote:
>> Sorry, I misspelled DifferentialGeometryNotes as dng instead of dgn
>in
>> haste yesterday. I corrected it to
>>
>http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/notes/diffgeom/dngi
>> mages.zip
>>
>
>:D That's not correct though: it's still 'dng'! No worries though, 
>since you explained what was wrong I simply corrected it and got the 
>source.
>
>The file compiled in seconds on TeX Live 2021, with one 
>*apparently*-show-stopping UTF-8 error that I simply clicked 'Return'
>to bypass (I have not tried to debug). Does this look like it's worked 
>fine? You can find the result at
>
>https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.d
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>
>I should note, in that pdf I am able to navigate cross-links just fine 
>(I can jump to table-of-contents items, or images, or whatever, by 
>simply clicking the hyperlinks in the document).
>
>> I did not intend anyone to waste much time on this, but it is
>frustrating that these different packages fail on me! I do have 
>administrator access to my windows 10 machine.
>> 
>> bob
>> 
>> bob jantzen
>> http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/
>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: AC <achirvasub at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 6:35 PM
>> To: texhax at tug.org; Robert Jantzen <robert.jantzen at villanova.edu>; 
>> Philip Taylor <P.Taylor at Hellenic-Institute.Uk>; Dr Alan Litchfield 
>> <alan at alphabyte.co.nz>
>> Cc: texhax at tug.org
>> Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: TeX on Windows?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 25, 2021 6:03:40 PM EDT, Robert Jantzen
><robert.jantzen at villanova.edu> wrote:
>> >This is my book:
>> >
>>
>>http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/notes/diffgeom/ind
>> >ex .htm The complete LaTeX source consists of two zipped files here:
>>
>>http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/notes/diffgeom/tex
>> >di
>> >stribution.htm
>> >
>> 
>> If I visit this last link I get to a page that in turn points me to
>> 
>> -
>>
>http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/notes/diffgeom/dgnt
>> exfiles2021.zip
>> 
>> -
>>
>http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/notes/diffgeom/dngi
>> mages.zip
>> 
>> and
>> 
>> -
>>
>http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/notes/diffgeom/dgni
>> magesepspdf.zip
>> 
>> The second one of those, presumably, is supposed to contain images. 
>> Alas, it doesn't work: clicking it results in
>> 
>> Not Found
>> 
>> The requested URL /robert.jantzen/notes/diffgeom/dngimages.zip was
>not found on this server.
>> 
>> Apache/2.2.15 (Oracle) Server at www34.homepage.villanova.edu Port 80
>> 
>> ---
>> 
>> Ironic, given that abandoned websites came up in a companion thread
>not too long ago :).
>> 
>> >This folder contains also the "converted-to-pdf.pdf" image files
>from
>> >using MikTex Texworks or TexnicCenter (I cannot remember any more 
>> >what I did back in the early teens of this decade):
>>
>>http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/notes/diffgeom/dgn
>> >im
>> >agesepspdf.zip
>> >
>> >Should I try Tex Live next?
>> >
>> >How is this possible? I really don't understand. Also how did you 
>> >guys get my email shot in the dark at TUG?
>> >
>> >bob
>> >
>> >bob jantzen
>> >http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/
>>
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>> >From: Philip Taylor <P.Taylor at Hellenic-Institute.Uk>
>> >Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 7:24 AM
>> >To: Dr Alan Litchfield <alan at alphabyte.co.nz>; Robert Jantzen 
>> ><robert.jantzen at villanova.edu>
>> >Cc: texhax at tug.org
>> >Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: TeX on Windows?
>> >
>> >Dr Alan Litchfield wrote:
>> >
>> >[Download the iso image and] mount it onto your computer.
>> >
>> >Not possible under Windows 7, Alan, unless additional software is 
>> >installed.  But to Bob :
>> >
>> >
>> >I have been happily using PCTeX all these years, and will continue
>to
>> >do so but it seems like PCTeX has left us in the past two years
>since
>> >I communicated with someone there at the company. Does anyone know 
>> >what happened to them?
>>
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>> >website seems abandoned
>> >Is there any other for pay product to replace it?
>> >
>> >Pass.  Although I used to pay for TeX back in the Kellerman & Smith 
>> >days, I have not done so since then, and have never paid for a PC 
>> >version.  Many years ago the late, great, Sebastian Rahtz persuaded 
>> >me to switch to TeX Live, and I have never looked back.  In the past
>
>> >I would use the network installer, or download and burn the ISO, or 
>> >download and mount the ISO, but these days I use Rsynch to fetch the
>
>> >installation suite and install from my local copy.  The real problem
>
>> >is that TeX Live is not a Windows product - it is a generic product 
>> >that has to support $2^n+1$ variant operating systems (how many 
>> >different ways can you spell "Linux" ?), and as a result the 
>> >documentation too has to be generic, which is distinctly
>sub-optimal.
>> >
>> >I am certain that together the TeX user community will be able to 
>> >assist you, but some background information will be vital, and it 
>> >will almost certainly take several iterations before we achieve 
>> >complete success.  So, questions :
>> >
>> >  1.  Exactly which operating system are you running  2.  Are you 
>> > able to access your computer as am administrator 3.
>Do
>> >you have fast Internet access from your computer ?  (where "fast" =>
>
>> >better than 10Mbps) ?
>> >
>> >And to my fellow TeX and Windows users - given that one can install 
>> >(for example) Windows 7 from a USB stick, using the Microsoft
>Windows
>> >USB/DVD download
>>
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>> >analogous methodology could be used to install TeX Live from a USB 
>> >stick for people such as Bob who lack a DVD reader ?
>> >--
>> >Philip Taylor