If I typeset this: %&program=xetex \font\title="Zapfino" at 36pt \setbox0=\hbox{\title I} \the\dp0 \box0 \bye Xetex tells me that the depth of \box0 is 54pt. Is there any way to get a correct answer? Thanks. Stephen Moye PS I've tried to post this message a total of three times during the day. My apologies if the others magically appear.