[XeTeX] A general suggetion for managing the fontselectionformixed-language document
John Was
john.was at ntlworld.com
Sat Sep 1 16:31:13 CEST 2007
Yes, I thought that would be a problem, but just threw out the idea in case anyone had some thoughts on it. For each font I usually compile a list of adjustments that need to be made, and they can be inserted by global search-and-replace, though of course this makes for a rather untidy file:
\/}\kern 0.05em :
at the junction between italic and a following roman colon, for example.
Best
John
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From: Yin Dian
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Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 3:22 PM
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Hi,
I'm afraid you can't apply the way of adding space between Chinese and English to adjusting kern pairs for italic correction. I'm using \XeTeXinterchartoks to add macros when character class switches, rather than kern pairs. Kern pairs is quite a good idea for spacing adjustment, which can allow font-specific adjusting, and can simplify the effort considering line break by defining kern pairs between a character and the margin. However, currently XeTeX does not seem to support this feature. And, I don't know whether there is some method to know what the previous character is when performing a class switch, so it's hard to realizing kern pairs using inter-character class tokens without defining a lot of classes.
Regards.
YIN Dian
On 9/1/07, John Was <john.was at ntlworld.com> wrote:
Hi
Thanks for putting me on to WinRAR - I've got a decompression utility (Conversions Plus) that recognizes all the archives I've encountered so far, but this is my first experience of .bz2.
I wonder if the concept of adjusting spacing between fonts could be widened to include e.g. customized 'kerning' pairs between an italic character and adjacent roman punctuation in an ordinary roman-alphabet font. Only today someone pointed out that in my version of Baskerville an italic 'f' followed by a roman comma had an ugly wide gap, and this sort of thing happens all the time when one is using italic to highlight a word or phrase (or of course a book title), with a piece of roman punctuation immediately after the italic: the spacing often looks a little wrong (either too tight or too wide) and one would like to be able to give TeX a list of appropriate adjustments (ideally a list of specific character pairs rather than just what to do when one font ends and another one begins). It occurred to me that what you have done to improve the transition between Chinese and English might eventually be adapted to achieve this.
Best
John
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From: Yin Dian
To: Unicode-based TeX for Mac OS X and other platforms
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 1:54 PM
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Hi,
You can check out the svn trunk. I could open the archive using WinRAR on Windows XP.
YIN Dian
On 9/1/07, John Was <john.was at ntlworld.com > wrote:
The Chinese package looks excellent. My computer (Windows XP) won't recognize the .bz2 files on the website. How do I get at the contents (presumably a collection of .TEX or .STY files)?
Best
John
----- Original Message -----
From: Yin Dian
To: Unicode-based TeX for Mac OS X and other platforms
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 11:00 AM
Subject: JunkEmail: Re: [XeTeX] A general suggetion for managing the font selection formixed-language document
Hi all,
I agree that it's a better idea not to implement this feature in fontspec but in other packages, where the character class scheme may be totally redefined discarding the effort of fontspec. In fact, the package "zhspacing" for Chinese document spacing adjustment is almost ready for use now. You can find out more info on the BBS of USTC and SMTH in Chinese. The project homepage is http://code.google.com/p/zhspacing/. HTH.
Regards.
YIN Dian
On 9/1/07, Will Robertson < wspr81 at gmail.com> wrote:
On 01/09/2007, at 17:44 , Song Zhiwei wrote:
> Many users is going to manage the font selection for mixed-language
> document. This can be done by adding a feature of "Unicode" for
> \fontsec like the feature of "Size".
I'm happy to support the addition of such features to fontspec but I
wonder if a new package would be a better idea (there's no reason
this couldn't hook into the fontspec interface, though).
There's additional stuff that falls into the category of this sort of
feature that doesn't make so much sense in fontspec -- for example,
tuning the spacing around punctuation. Perhaps the upcoming jspacing
(?) package will do this sort of thing.
Sadly I don't have time to work on this new interface but I
definitely like the idea.
Will
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