[XeTeX] Font problem with publisher --- help!!!

[Nicolas Vaughan]

Thanks, Jonathan. I'll take a look at what you suggest.
Nicolas

On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Jonathan Kew <jfkthame at googlemail.com>wrote:

>
> On 11 Sep 2009, at 17:17, Nicolas Vaughan wrote:
>
>  Hi,
>> I went to my publisher's and the problem was in some of the technical
>> drawings (created in Illustrator, and included as PDFs in the LaTeX doc),
>> some of whose fonts were not embedded.
>> I had two possible solutions: to re-embed all fonts in the drawings, or to
>> convert everything to curves. I took the latter.
>>
>> The curious thing is that these problems could only be spotted (by me, at
>> my home-office) with a plugin as Enfocus. When I try to print or view the
>> PDFs, I have no problems.
>>
>>
> You can view or print them because you have the relevant fonts on your
> system, presumably. (Or else Acrobat Reader silently performs a
> substitution, and the result looked OK so you didn't notice it.)
>
> If you view the PDF with Acrobat [Reader], you should be able to look at
> the list of fonts used (somewhere in a properties dialog, I forget the exact
> details) and see whether it says they're embedded or not.
>
> Similarly, the TeXworks PDF viewer has a Fonts panel (available from the
> Window / Show submenu) that should give the same information.
>
> I don't know whether one of these would actually have worked in your case,
> to alert you to the problem earlier, but in theory at least....!
>
> JK
>
>
>  Thanks for all your useful comments.
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Nicolas
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Nicolas Vaughan <nivaca at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> Thanks, Jonathan.
>> I agree that they're messing things up. I'm gonna see what they have in
>> mind.
>> Best wishes,
>> Nicolas
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 8:42 AM, Jonathan Kew <jfkthame at googlemail.com>
>> wrote:
>> On 11 Sep 2009, at 14:28, Nicolas Vaughan wrote:
>>
>> What do you think about converting all text to outlines? That'll solve the
>> problem, but I don't know if it has "collateral damages...
>>
>> I think you shouldn't be doing any of this.
>>
>> If something about the actual text needs to be changed, the publisher
>> should tell you what, so you can change it and regenerate the PDF. (If you
>> convert it to outlines, they can't edit it anyway.)
>>
>> And if they want to add something to the pages without actually touching
>> your text (e.g., their logo, ISBN, etc), then they should be "placing" the
>> PDF page (or an EPS copy) intact, complete with its embedded fonts, not
>> trying to open it in Illustrator for editing.
>>
>> In either case, it sounds like they're currently going about things in
>> completely the wrong way.
>>
>> JK
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Nicolas
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Nicolas Vaughan <nivaca at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Thanks for your advices. I will be meeting today with my publisher again,
>> and I'm carrying with me a host of PDFs with your suggestions.
>> In the end, I did as William suggested: export all the pages into EPS and
>> placed them in a INDD file.... let's wait to see what they say now.
>>
>> Best wishes!
>> Nicolas
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 7:59 AM, William Adams <will.adams at frycomm.com>
>> wrote:
>> On Sep 11, 2009, at 2:17 AM, Nicolas Vaughan wrote:
>>
>> The problem persists, though. I think my publisher is trying to open the
>> PDF in Adobe Illustrator, in order to do something with the text block
>> (don't know why!). But when he tries to do that, AI reports that KP-etc.
>> fonts are not available. And they aren't available to the OS (and to AI)
>> since they are LaTeX fonts only.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>>
>> If they want to do something other than edit text, they can open your .pdf
>> in Adobe Acrobat Professional, save out the pages which they wish to change
>> as .eps files, then place (not open) those .eps files in Adobe Illustrator
>> (or better still Adobe InDesign) and add whatever additional elements need
>> to be added (they'll need to set up the page properly to match trim, bleed
>> &c.) --- of course if the text needs to be edited, then they'll need for you
>> to do that as previous respondents have noted.
>>
>> Or they could purchase Enfocus PitStop and use it for any such .pdf
>> editing.
>>
>> Adobe Illustrator is _not_ a general purpose .pdf editor and has to
>> translate all elements of a .pdf into its own internal format which can
>> result in marked changes in appearance or text formatting and then creates
>> the need to proof the edited file character for character, line for line,
>> graphic for graphic.
>>
>> William
>>
>> --
>> William Adams
>> senior graphic designer
>> Fry Communications
>> Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
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