[XeTeX] Bidi, memoir and footnotes

Arash Zeini arash.zeini at gmail.com
Sat Mar 12 14:13:45 CET 2011


Hi Diederick,

Thanks for your message. I run an "unstable" Debian and there is nothing I can 
update beyond this. TeX Live 2009 is the latest available in the Debian 
repositories, I will have to check whether "experimental" offers a newer 
version. I thought about updating Bidi but am afraid I will run into problems 
if I only update one package.

I understand that bidirectional documents are complex and think that Vafa has 
done a terrific job with Bidi. But I am also trying to understand why this 
package changes the document class's footnote format. I say this in light of 
Vafa's plans to implement a multi-level footnote system in Bidi. Is this 
really necessary?
Besides, this might be a bug that is still alive in later versions of Bidi, or 
has this been a know issue and fixed?

Best wishes,
Arash

On Saturday 12 March 2011, Diederick C. Niehorster wrote:
> Hi Arash,
> 
> Vafa already replied before that Bidi 1.0.3 is very old. Try to get a
> hold of the newest version and see if that solves your problem. Try,
> for instance, the update mechanism that probably comes with your tex
> distribution.
> 
> Best,
> Dee
> 
> On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 03:29, Arash Zeini <arash.zeini at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Thursday 10 February 2011, Vafa Khalighi wrote:
> >> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 7:07 AM, Arash Zeini <arash.zeini at gmail.com> 
wrote:
> >> > Hello,
> >> > 
> >> > I am using Bidi v1.0.3 as part of a packaged TeXLive installation on a
> >> > Debian
> >> > unstable:
> >> > "XeTeX 3.1415926-2.2-0.9995.2 (TeX Live 2009/Debian) // kpathsea
> >> > version 5.0.0
> >> > // Copyright 2009 SIL International and Jonathan Kew."
> >> > 
> >> > I have a fairly complex master document to hold all the pieces of my
> >> > thesis together. I use the memoir document class with ledmac and
> >> > several layers of footnotes. Now, when I try to load the bidi
> >> > package, I get the following error
> >> > message:
> >> > 
> >> > "! No room for a new \count .
> >> > \ch at ck ...\else \errmessage {No room for a new #3}
> >> > 
> >> >                                                  \fi
> >> 
> >> That is a very old version of bidi but to answer your question: bidi
> >> redefines all footnote internals from standard latex. In the upcomming
> >> version of bidi, I have implemented extrafootnotefeatures option
> >> motivated by memoir and ledmac footnote features that allows you to
> >> typeset footnotes from 2 columns to 10 columns. Is this helpful?
> > 
> > Dear Vafa,
> > 
> > Another question: you mention above that "bidi redefines all footnote
> > internals". When I load Bidi v1.0.3 with the memoir class, it changes the
> > line spacing in the footnotes as well. It adds some irregular vertical
> > space between the lines and the result doesn't look very nice. Is there
> > a way around this?
> > 
> > Many thanks and best wishes,
> > Arash
> > 
> > 
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