[XeTeX] XeTeX Digest, Vol 116, Issue 25
S. venkataraman
svenkat at ignou.ac.in
Mon Nov 25 06:26:25 CET 2013
Thanks folks for the response.
Dear Alastair,
Thanks for the tip. Annapurna font
seems to work perfectly. I haven't
gone through the entire document carefully.
The three words rendered correctly. There doesn't
seem to be any italic variant. However, regular and bold
are enough for me for the time being.
Dear Khaled,
Regarding the version of xetex I use, I have copied the line giving the
xetex version from
the log file.
This is XeTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.5-0.9999.3 (TeX Live 2013)
(format=xelatex 2013.6.27)
Can you expand on the following remark?
> The TECkit map is breaking the direct Unicode input, if I drop it the
> first line gets rendered correctly.
I am not using any TECkit mapping like velthuis or itrans. I am inputting
it directly.
Unless I have misunderstood it, Zdenek Wagner seems to be saying the
diametrically opposite thing.
>As Khaled wrote, it is the TECkit problem. The TECkit map assumes that
>the viramas were added as a result of the map and they are processed
>in several steps. If you enter the Devanagari text directly, it cannot
>work.
Dear Zdenek,
>It depends on the version of XeTeX and FreeFont. The shaping engine
>was changed in 2013 and the old versions of FreeFont (release
>2012-05-03) no longer works. You have to use the latest version from
>subversion at https://savannah.gnu.org/projects/freefont/
There doesn't seem to be any official release of GNU freefont after 2012.
How do I get the latest version from the subversion? I can't find any
instructions and I am not familiar with svn.
Best,
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> 1. Re: Problems in Devanagari typing. (Zdenek Wagner)
> 2. Re: Problems in Devanagari typing. (Khaled Hosny)
> 3. Re: Problems in Devanagari typing. (Zdenek Wagner)
> 4. Re: Problems in Devanagari typing. (Mike Maxwell)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 19:04:53 +0100
> From: Zdenek Wagner <zdenek.wagner at gmail.com>
> To: "XeTeX (Unicode-based TeX) discussion." <xetex at tug.org>
> Subject: Re: [XeTeX] Problems in Devanagari typing.
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> 2013/11/24 S. venkataraman <svenkat at ignou.ac.in>:
> > I was looking for some free, unicode compliant,
> > devanagari font family that has regular, italic and bold variants. I
> found
> > that aksharyogini, CDAC-GISTYogesh, FreeSans and FreeSerif
> > fit the bill. But, there are different problems with different fonts.
> > Here is a minimal example with the problems explained with comments.
> > Yogesh font is OK but
> > for the one problem.
> > Is there a free font with all the three variants that works
> > properly?
> > *********example file begins***************
> > \documentclass{article}
> > \usepackage{ifxetex}
> > \RequireXeTeX
> > \usepackage{fontspec}
> > \usepackage{xunicode}
> > \usepackage{xltxtra}
> > \newfontface\yogesh[Script=Devanagari,Ligatures=TeX]{CDAC-GISTYogesh}
> > \newfontface\aksharygni[Script=Devanagari,Ligatures=TeX]{Aksharyogini}
> > \newfontface\freeserif[Script=Devanagari,Ligatures=TeX]{FreeSerif}
> > \newfontface\freesans[Script=Devanagari,Ligatures=TeX]{FreeSans}
> > \begin{document}
> > \relax
> > {\yogesh ????????? ????-????? ????????}\\ %problem with the first word.
> > Repha is positioned wrongly.
> > {\aksharygni ????????? ????-????? ????????}\\ %problem with second word.
> > dvi ligature is not correct.
> > {\freeserif ????????? ????-????? ????????}\\ %Problem with second and
> third
> > words. dvi ligature is not correct and kri ligature is not correct.
> > {\freesans ????????? ????-????? ????????}\\ %kri ligature is not
> correct.
> > \end{document}
>
> It depends on the version of XeTeX and FreeFont. The shaping engine
> was changed in 2013 and the old versions of FreeFont (release
> 2012-05-03) no longer works. You have to use the latest version from
> subversion at https://savannah.gnu.org/projects/freefont/
>
> This book was typeset with it using XeLaTeX from TeX Live 2013:
> http://icebearsoft.euweb.cz/ArunakashKaRasta/index-hi.php
>
> > **********************example file ends****************
> > Dr. S. Venkataraman
> > Associate Professor in Mathematics
> > School of Sciences
> > IGNOU
> > Tel. :29572812
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 20:07:35 +0200
> From: Khaled Hosny <khaledhosny at eglug.org>
> To: "XeTeX (Unicode-based TeX) discussion." <xetex at tug.org>
> Subject: Re: [XeTeX] Problems in Devanagari typing.
> Message-ID: <20131124180735.GB5092 at khaled-laptop>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 06:48:56PM +0100, NMPOST7 wrote:
> > On 24/11/2013 18:23, Khaled Hosny wrote:
> > > What version of XeTeX are you using? You don't seem to be using the
> > > latest version.
> >
> > I am using the latest version from MacTeX (TexLive 2013) but I do not
> have the
> > Fonts mentioned here. I am using velthui mapping. That works out well
> with the
> > transliteration.
> >
> > In the attached file the direct typing in Devanagari is the first
> example. The
> > ligature is wrongly placed (the second syllable). The second line is
> interpreted
> > correctly.
>
> The TECkit map is breaking the direct Unicode input, if I drop it the
> first line gets rendered correctly.
>
> Regards,
> Khaled
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 19:26:26 +0100
> From: Zdenek Wagner <zdenek.wagner at gmail.com>
> To: "XeTeX (Unicode-based TeX) discussion." <xetex at tug.org>
> Subject: Re: [XeTeX] Problems in Devanagari typing.
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> 2013/11/24 Khaled Hosny <khaledhosny at eglug.org>:
> > On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 06:48:56PM +0100, NMPOST7 wrote:
> >> On 24/11/2013 18:23, Khaled Hosny wrote:
> >> > What version of XeTeX are you using? You don't seem to be using the
> >> > latest version.
> >>
> >> I am using the latest version from MacTeX (TexLive 2013) but I do not
> have the
> >> Fonts mentioned here. I am using velthui mapping. That works out well
> with the
> >> transliteration.
> >>
> >> In the attached file the direct typing in Devanagari is the first
> example. The
> >> ligature is wrongly placed (the second syllable). The second line is
> interpreted
> >> correctly.
> >
> > The TECkit map is breaking the direct Unicode input, if I drop it the
> > first line gets rendered correctly.
> >
> As Khaled wrote, it is the TECkit problem. The TECkit map assumes that
> the viramas were added as a result of the map and they are processed
> in several steps. If you enter the Devanagari text directly, it cannot
> work. See my samples with FreeSans and FreeSerif. Notice, that
> FreeSans is usable for modern languages as Hindi, Marathi, Nepali, but
> not for Sanskrit while FreeSerif is usable for all of them provided
> you switch not only the script but also the language. Try to type
> ????? with both Language=Hindi and Language=Sanskrit. The difference
> should also be visible here:
> http://hroch486.icpf.cas.cz/freefont-devanagari/ (it works even on
> many web browsers).
>
> > Regards,
> > Khaled
> >
> >
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> Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 18:46:29 -0500
> From: Mike Maxwell <maxwell at umiacs.umd.edu>
> To: "XeTeX (Unicode-based TeX) discussion." <xetex at tug.org>
> Subject: Re: [XeTeX] Problems in Devanagari typing.
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> I'm having trouble understanding this:
>
> >> Am 24.11.2013 um 17:27 schrieb Khaled Hosny:
> > ...The problem I had with Malayalam (Rachana Font) has been fixed after
> I updated it.
>
> The "it" that got fixed = the font or XeTeX?
>
> > However TexShop does have problem with certain ligatures when it comes
> to Malayalam. However, the
> > pdf renders the ligature correctly.
>
> I'm not understanding: are you saying that the screen view of TexShop is
> at fault, or the PDF
> produced by XeTeX when you use TeXShop?
>
> > Mr Venkataraman is facing a similar problem. Font. As we have seen the
> problem is with ligatures.
>
> Perhaps you could be more specific?
> --
> Mike Maxwell
> maxwell at umiacs.umd.edu
> "My definition of an interesting universe is
> one that has the capacity to study itself."
> --Stephen Eastmond
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Dr. S. Venkataraman
Associate Professor in Mathematics
School of Sciences
IGNOU
Tel. :29572812(o)
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